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Post by saxon on Sept 28, 2021 16:24:52 GMT
probably my number 1 Free Agent target this offseason would be Sterling Marte...yes, he's older but at the same time, he plays a strong defense, he's got good base running skills, hits for average with decent power and OBP numbers... according to fangraphs, he's got the 2nd best overall WAR among center fielders...and the Mets don't have what it would take to get Mullins in a trade: fangraphs ranking of center fielders
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Post by CMF on Sept 28, 2021 19:40:24 GMT
Conforto is not worth the $19M to me. And it could be closer to $20M.
Thomas I assume you meant Nimmo in the OF?
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Post by nyf on Sept 28, 2021 19:58:13 GMT
I'll go on record now saying there is no way McNeil isn't on the team next season. He may not be a starter, but his salary is low and his position coverage is good (LF, RF, 2B, 3B and I presume 1B in a pinch). Worst case scenario, he's a super-sub on the Mets next year.
Dom is a real tough call. My guess is he'll also still be on the team next year, at least to start. They may try to shop him, but coming off a shit year thats a tough sell to anyone kicking the tires.
If either has a shitty spring or start of the season, they both have options left.
Also, remember, next year likely starts the DH in the NL, so there might be a big middle of the order signing to be had there (or slide in JD Davis?).
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Post by saxon on Sept 28, 2021 21:08:46 GMT
if I had a choice between re-signing Villar as a utility guy slash stop-gap 3B vs keeping McNeil, I would rather keep Villar...more speed, more power, better defense...you can only keep so many infielders on the 26 man roster, however with both Villar and McNeil, you would have no purpose for Luis G, so maybe keep both of them and unload Luis G
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Post by nyf on Sept 28, 2021 22:22:18 GMT
McNeil could be your OF depth or as I said you could start the year at AAA. Truth is I don't give up on McNeil after a single shitty year. PEven if you include this one,
McNeil is a career .300/.364/.461 Villar is a career .258/.326/.403
McNeil's worst year is .252/.316/.363 Villar's worst is .232/.301/.292
When did Villar have that year? 2020? How did he bounce back? You're arguing to keep him around. Who's to say Jeff, who in my opinion is the better hitter worse fielder, doesn't bounce back similarly? As for the fielding? I keep Luis G either in AAA or as the defensive replacement and Jeff is the bat off the bench if he's not starting.
Just saying, for the cost of McNeil, which I'm guessing will be 2-3 million (which is nothing), optionable if he stinks and controllable until 2025 if he doesn't, I don't see them cutting the line. There is simply too much low risk high reward potential there.
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Post by saxon on Sept 28, 2021 23:46:46 GMT
I'm not thinking Villar as a full time starter in 2022, but I figured that you need someone to fill the gap at third until they bring up the kid currently at AAA in May. I believe that his name is something like Mark Vietos
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Post by nyf on Sept 29, 2021 20:10:01 GMT
Kid has only 27 ABs in AAA (where he performed), and not exactly aging out of the system at 22. So I wouldn't expect him in May unless he torches ST and AAA to start the season. I also wouldn't be surprised to see him as the Mets #1 trade bait this offseason with Brett Baty hot on his trail and LOTS of holes to fill.
I'd be fine with Villar in the mix for bench role and Luis G in AAA as more depth. But despite the fan over reaction from "EXTEND HIM" to "CUT HIM", I would be absolutely shocked if McNeil was not in a Mets uniform next season.
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Post by thomasam on Sept 30, 2021 23:46:17 GMT
Yeah, it's a tough call with Conforto. I think it depends a lot on whether they want to sign a long-term solution for RF vs. feeling like Lee could move Nimmo over immediately. If they're really going to try to get Bryant (which just doesn't feel at all likely to me based on what Bryant probably wants) do you sign a big FA? When it comes to Baty and Vientos if they're both truly major leaguers they can't both play third. So another year could be enough delay to get them both up here.
Syndergaard I feel similarly about, especially if they don't sign Stroman. Who are you going to have that's better, even if it's Syndergaard at 90%?
If you're signing a new bullpen, a new LF and a new 2B next year that's a lot of signings. Adding a RF and SP to that is a lot.
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Post by brianstark on Oct 4, 2021 21:07:57 GMT
First sacrificial lamb, Luis Rojas.
I think he was just not ready for the big chair and allowed too many voices to move him along. That may have been what was asked of him, but it did not work.
I have no animus toward him, he has a fantastic reputation and undeniable pedigree. He just was not ready.
Much like Omar, I hope we can keep him in the development side of the organization as I do think that is where he shines.
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Post by nyf on Oct 4, 2021 22:10:56 GMT
can you be a sacrificial lamb when you're to blame? I thought the lamb part denoted an innocence slaughtered by the mass hysteria.
Rojas to me was simply the first lined up in front of the executioner. There's plenty left to walk the plank following him. I do agree though, he has assets that I hope the Mets hold onto, but just not at the top.
As I said in the chat, Sandy has to be next if this team wants to succeed. Let it be a candid conversation between Stevie and Sandy. I don't feel like Cohen shrinks from uncomfortable situations. We all know the only reason Sandy was here was to grease the wheels with the other owners. Mission accomplished. Since then he has hired a Me Too guy and a Drive Drunk guy. What is next? A beat your wife guy? 2 strikes is enough. He got lucky in 2015, he's had a decade of fails with the Mets otherwise, a lifetime .484 winning (losing?) percent with the Mets, plenty of fails in Oakland too. Enough.
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Post by thomasam on Oct 5, 2021 0:53:51 GMT
Conforto is not worth the $19M to me. And it could be closer to $20M. Thomas I assume you meant Nimmo in the OF? I did, good catch. I'm really split on Conforto. It's great to have hometown guys stay but wow this was a bad year.
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Post by saxon on Oct 6, 2021 16:44:08 GMT
I don't know how truthful the rumor is, but everything is reporting that a "source" reported that Theo and Cohen had a meeting today where they mutually agreed that Theo and the Mets are not a match...
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Post by CMF on Oct 6, 2021 17:18:16 GMT
Andy Martino is reporting the same thing Sax.
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Post by CMF on Oct 6, 2021 17:20:05 GMT
And Conforto is a fine player but he has not turned into the middle of the lineup, consistent 30 homer threat that he was projected to be. Again, a nice complimentary piece but not someone you build a lineup around. Yet I suspect he'll be looking for middle of the lineup money.
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Post by saxon on Oct 7, 2021 1:22:19 GMT
I really don't have a good feeling about the GM, manager, head of baseball operations search this off-season. Hopefully I am just being paranoid with how the Mets luck is typically.
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