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Post by nyf on Feb 17, 2023 16:36:31 GMT
100%. Routing for his success, but I can't imagine this "tightness" which we have all continued to read about the last 3 years over and over gets better throughout the next 5 years.
I hold my original stance. At 3 years, in Uncle Steve's shoes, I would have paid for past production mollifying the fanbase, closed my eyes, crossed my fingers and PRAYED for the best. Any longer than 3 years, someone else's problem. 185 million over 5 years, BONKERS.
While Verlander has his own injury concerns at age 40, I can stomach the risk over 2 years.
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Post by saxon on Feb 18, 2023 8:06:46 GMT
Agreed... paying deGrom a crazy long contract extension with his injury history in the last few years made no sense... another contract that made no sense is what the Red Sox signed Devers to. It's not that he couldn't have gotten it elsewhere, it's that they sucked with him already, so it is not like he's going to make an impact
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Post by nyf on Feb 21, 2023 17:25:43 GMT
I don't think that is apples to apples.
For a team like the RedSox with spending power, they can turn it around at any moment.
1) I believe they are supposed to have a good farm system, so with the infusion of new talent, some buying of veteran talent, and a player like Devers already in your system, they may be back in the fold in the next 2-3 years, well before Devers is out of his prime.
2) They should also have PLENTY of money to spend having cut their payroll this year by shipping out Bogaerts, not resigning Martinez, not resigning Eovaldi. That right there cleared off 55MM of available payroll, they signed many short term deals this year to not bog down the future. Right now, their team payroll is well below the median for what big spenders are paying (Mets, Dodger, Yankees, Padres, Phillies, etc). I expect big offseason moves next year from the RedSox.
3) Trevor Story and Chris Sale could add immediate star power back into the line up if they are healthier this year.
Also remember, that extension clock doesn't start ticking until next year, 2024, so they'll be 1 year closer to completing the rebuild then, if not already completed.
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Post by thomasam on Feb 22, 2023 12:09:09 GMT
Yeah I agree that the Devers contract is a good investment. He's 26 and you have to think he'd be producing at this level for the next 5-6 years. That's a long window for a team like Boston. They're a big-market team and need to always be building.
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Post by CMF on Feb 22, 2023 13:49:28 GMT
I agree and if you let Devers go or trade him, you're immediately looking for the next Devers.
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2023 19:21:39 GMT
Hated to see deGrom go, but with his un-reliability it made no sense to outdo the Rangers...
The Rangers have placed deGrom on the 60-Day IL/DL...
deGrom's numbers are great when he has pitched, but he's only thrown 30 innings for far this season and less than 200 innings in the last 4 seasons combined
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Post by nyf on Jun 7, 2023 15:27:59 GMT
TJS. Not surprising, but sad to hear all the same.
Said it in real time, but I would have given a Scherzer type 120M/3 year deal, knowing it was a massive overpay due to risk, but worth it to keep our boy in Blue and Orange. 5 years 183M was just an insane contract and now they are paying the price.
Just read a tweet that pointed out that the Rangers have now twice in the past year shown up the Mets in terms of taking players the Mets medical staff have labeled as "risky" only to have them have TJS within the year. Kumar Rocker is the other.
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Post by thomasam on Jun 8, 2023 14:59:43 GMT
deGrom, Rocker and Correa. I know the medical staff has been dragged through the mud for years but those are three major mistakes that were avoided. Rocker could end up being great but would anyone be happy waiting until 2025 to see?
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Post by Admin on Jun 8, 2023 18:56:19 GMT
deGrom, Rocker and Correa. I know the medical staff has been dragged through the mud for years but those are three major mistakes that were avoided. Rocker could end up being great but would anyone be happy waiting until 2025 to see? I always worry when we draft NCAA pitchers...some of these guys have had workloads that you would almost never see in the minors...I think that when Matt Harvey was in the NCAA, he was throwing as many as 156 pitches in a game...
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Post by Admin on Jun 8, 2023 19:00:21 GMT
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