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Post by CMF on Jan 29, 2023 14:20:27 GMT
I love this signing for the team. Locks up a very valuable core piece at extremely reason money. And good for the Squirrel.
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Post by nyf on Jan 30, 2023 17:10:51 GMT
Just commented on Sax's thread - but same. Love it.
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Post by saxon on Jan 30, 2023 18:51:17 GMT
Just commented on Sax's thread - but same. Love it. Jan 30, 2023 12:10:25 GMT -5 nyf said: Oh - and splitting hairs, but I read 50/63. Steal of a deal. I figure its something like Year 1: 7M Year 2: 11M Year 3 & 4: 16M each Year 5: 13M team option so, 16M per year for FA years aged 33 & 34, essentially the end of his prime, I love the deal, fair for both sides and keeps McNeil, a fan favorite, reigning batting title holder, in blue and orange. Love it! If your numbers and baseball prospectus numbers are correct for McNeil and McCann, then McMets are paying McCann slightly more over the next 2 seasons to play for someone else than McNeil is getting paid to play for the Mets: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1npn_xiAwVyCUkZf6t2ivPtqyM-uF3IEcXcrsDT_BTvc/edit?pli=1#gid=1520401900McCann, James NYN pay $19M in 12/22 trade 2023: $11,000,000 2024: $8.000 (however for Competitive Balance Tax purposes, MLB sees it as $9.5 Mil per season instead)
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Post by saxon on Jan 30, 2023 18:56:18 GMT
pretty funny that they are paying a "batting champ" less than a discarded catcher...
by the way, the spreadsheets that baseball prospectus has shows a similar breakdown in McNeil's contract as Fang has... However, it shows that for "Competitive Balance Tax", it's being spread out as $12.5 Mil per season for 4 seasons
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Post by saxon on Jan 30, 2023 19:10:19 GMT
by the way, the current MLB "Qualifying Offer" is $19.5 Mil...so if McNeil continues playing like he did in 2022, then the Mets got a really good deal...
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Post by nyf on Jan 30, 2023 20:29:15 GMT
My numbers are purely based on what McNeil was going to get this year for arbitration (was between 6.5 - 7.5), and then my best guess what his final year in arbitration would look like. I have no clue what he is actually going to take home each year, so there is a little PV vs FV of money to factor into the decision as well.
For Luxury tax purposes, yes, it doesn't care what you allocate per year, it's a straight line allocation I believe, so either 1/4 of the 50 (or 1/5 of 63 depending if options count) would be allocated to Lux Tax per year.
And don't look at the AAV vs McCann, because the 2 years of arbitration for McNeil vs the full 4 years of FA purchased for McCann makes it an apples to orange comparison. That said, 16MM for FA year 1+2 is a steal compared to what will likely be a 20+M QO in 2025 and 2026.
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