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Post by CMF on Jul 9, 2021 13:31:41 GMT
I wonder if it's past time to drop Lindor in the batting order? I have seen enough to at least temporarily move him down. The bases loaded, none out, strike out looking was the last straw for me. He let a clearly wobbling Boxberger off the hook, who then rebounded to strike out two more. I just see no confidence from Lindor and no zip in his bat when he does hit the ball. Hard to get any offenseive momentum going this season so time to shake it up a little.
The defense and the fact he is in the lineup every day does have value but I would drop him down in the order, even if just for a stint to see if he can get it turned around.
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Post by saxon on Jul 9, 2021 20:45:39 GMT
even though his overall numbers are going to suck this season, since the 2nd game of the DH on May 27th, his numbers are respectable (at least compared to some of his teammates):
last 40 games: .262/.350/.454/.804
26 runs, 7 doubles, 1 triple, 6 HR, 21 RBI, 16 walks, 4 steals
which averaged over 162 games would be: 106 runs, 29 doubles, 5 triples, 25 HR, 86 RBI, 65 walks and 17 steals
not the player's numbers that we expected, but he's improving.
I'm more concerned about McNeil and Conforto sucking up the #5 and #6 spots in the order...
as badly as Conforto was doing earlier, he's basically hit like a pitcher since he's been back:
since June 23rd return: .119/.283/.143/.426(OPS); with 5 hits and only 1 double;
last 6 starts: .063 average with only 1 single
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Post by saxon on Jul 9, 2021 22:35:47 GMT
one thing about all these shifts that teams use, and also the focus on taking pitches & walks, is that batting averages overall look like crap nowadays
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Post by saxon on Jul 10, 2021 16:22:27 GMT
rewatching last night's blowout...haven't gotten to Lindor's at bats yet but...one thing that we can't complain about is Lindor's defense, when a ball is hit anywhere in his neighborhood, you can pretty much expect an out...he gets to the ball and throws a laser to first base...defensively, he is closer to Ozzy Smith than to Reyes/Jeter
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Post by saxon on Jul 10, 2021 16:36:05 GMT
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Post by brianstark on Jul 10, 2021 19:54:02 GMT
I'm thinking he will have a much better second half, but the guy I have a feeling about is Smith. I just have this feeling he is going to rake post AS...
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Post by saxon on Jul 10, 2021 23:48:17 GMT
I'm thinking he will have a much better second half, but the guy I have a feeling about is Smith. I just have this feeling he is going to rake post AS... Since June 14th, he's hitting .300/.367/.538/.904 with 5 HRs, 4 doubles, 16 RBI and 16 runs scored in 90 plate appearances www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=smithdo02&t=b&year=2021#299-324-sum:batting_gamelogsand while I realize that it's a team game, so you have to take these things with a grain of salt but...Mets are 43-30 when Dom starts |
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Post by brianstark on Jul 12, 2021 0:39:43 GMT
Yeah, it looks like FINALLY he is stringing together good offensive games together. Maybe too bad we hit the break right now, but maybe this will be a good mental state to be in through the break.
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Post by CMF on Jul 12, 2021 3:03:20 GMT
I would be very happy to be wrong on Lindor and hope he goes on a long hot streak. His defense has been stellar all season.
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Post by nyf on Jul 12, 2021 15:10:41 GMT
Infinitesimally small sample size, but since you're July 9th post, he's gone
.385/.500/.846/1.346 😆🤣
The shocking thing is he hasn't gotten into a single "hot streak" yet. He'll find one, he's too good not to, and we'll see his average climb quick. My prediction, he ends around a .250, which is not what we paid 341M for, but all things considered, it will mean we got a more typical 2nd half production.
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Post by saxon on Sept 4, 2024 20:32:19 GMT
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Post by nyf on Sept 4, 2024 22:55:35 GMT
Yes, this has been an interesting topic - good one to raise. Sax is our MVP.
Lindor has been hearing the chants of MVP MVP MVP, the question is does anyone outside of Mets Land believe he deserves it?
Case for Ohtani - historic batting season. 50 HR/ 50 SB is crazy. Does anymore than that need to be said?
Case against Ohtani - DH, limited wear & tear allowing him to be 100% for each and every one of his ABs. This isn't the "best batter award" and his defensive value is 0. If Ohtani wasn't there, the Dodgers would still make the playoffs (as proven year after year after year).
Case for Lindor - premium glove at a premium position. Teams settle for marginal bats for a slick SS, Lindor does both. 30/30 is incredible for the position. Club House leader. If he wasn't there, the Mets would be many many games since eliminated.
If this was the silver slugger, or most valuable hitter, then yes, Ohtani all day, but to me, if the Mets make the playoffs, Lindor was the most valuable player to any club in all of baseball.
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Post by saxon on Sept 5, 2024 2:45:32 GMT
If this was the silver slugger, or most valuable hitter, then yes, Ohtani all day, but to me, if the Mets make the playoffs, Lindor was the most valuable player to any club in all of baseball. I don't know how many times that I have argued with people that the award is titled "MVP", not best hitting stats in the league...MVP means "Most Valuable Player", as in: If this guy wasn't on the team, the team wouldn't be in the same caliber as they are ... When Andre Dawson won the MVP, his team sucked even with him hitting a shitton of Home Runs (at hitter friendly Wrigley Field)...did he have the best stats that year? yes...did his value to the team make them a much better team than they would have finished without him? Hell no... On the converse, no Met was seriously considered for MVP in 1986...Were they the best team? Yes...did a few of them have elite stats for that season? yes...but was any one individual the absolute definite reason for their success? Not according to the voters... So: Would the Dodgers be successful without their DH? yes... Would the Mets be sniffing a possible playoff without their SS? hell no... |
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Post by saxon on Sept 5, 2024 2:49:33 GMT
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Post by saxon on Sept 5, 2024 2:56:13 GMT
In 1986, the Mets won 108 games and finished 21.5 games ahead of the 2nd place team and 44 games in front of the worst team in the NL East... Mike Schmidt won the MVP even though his team was a non factor in the NL from the beginning of the season until the end of the season... Gary Carter finished 3rd, Keith Hernandez finished 4th, Ray Knight finished 14th, Roger McDowell finished 17th, Lenny Dykstra finished 19th, Bobby Ojeda finished 21st in the voting. www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1986.shtml#all_NL_MVP_votingalso of note: Strawberry had 27 Home Runs, 5 Triples, 27 doubles, 28 Stolen Bases (yet, did not get any votes); Doc Gooden had 17 wins, 2.84 ERA, 1.108 WHIP in 250 Innings (yet, did not get any votes); |
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